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    Posted: 27 Aug 2016 at 12:53pm
I'm looking for an official company position regarding the in-water cleaning of Micron 66. If I wanted to give a customer of mine the manufacturer's recommendation regarding this issue, what should I tell them? Thanks.

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They haven't been on here in months.  Does 66 slough off much when you clean it?
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Originally posted by BoatNut BoatNut wrote:

Does 66 slough off much when you clean it?

No. That's one of the things I love about it. Have a look:

https://youtu.be/5YNY0RxoGvI




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Remarkable, really.  Has 66 always been that resistant to scrubbing or have you seen it change over the years?  As an applicator I've noticed many of the resins seem to be evolving in how they apply and cure out. Dot.gov has probably been putting the pressure on the manufacturers to harden all the products up. 
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Originally posted by BoatNut BoatNut wrote:

Remarkable, really.  Has 66 always been that resistant to scrubbing or have you seen it change over the years?  As an applicator I've noticed many of the resins seem to be evolving in how they apply and cure out. Dot.gov has probably been putting the pressure on the manufacturers to harden all the products up. 

I do believe this particular product has evolved, as we seem to get 2-3 years out of a Micron 66 bottom now where as when it first came out, I would tell clients 12-18 months is what they should expect. I don't think it has anything to do with regualtory agencies however, as they tend to be focused on biocide leach rates, not paint hardness.


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Up here in Washington the dept of ecology is strictly enforcing rules that forbid cleaning of hulls that produce plumes of paint resin in the water column when scrubbed (I assume it's the same in Calif?) so I'd suspect some pressure is being applied at some level to reduce that characteristic.  Of course we also have a copper ban partially kicking in next year with a total ban effective 2020 so the great transformation to whatever is next in anti-foul tech has started.
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Not the same in California (although there is a local restriction in San Diego Bay.) The next thing are zinc-based paints. They have (so far) proven to be inferior to copper paints (at least in California), which is a primary reason why the copper ban legislation we dealt with a few years ago failed.

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They will be back, can't remember an instance where another state has a more restrictive environmental law than an equivalent reg in California.  I'm starting to see some improvements in the copper free products and I sense that by the deadline the paint manufacturers will have it nailed down.
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Originally posted by BoatNut BoatNut wrote:

They will be back, can't remember an instance where another state has a more restrictive environmental law than an equivalent reg in California.  I'm starting to see some improvements in the copper free products and I sense that by the deadline the paint manufacturers will have it nailed down.

You can get away with less effective anti fouling coatings in Washington because you are dealing with much less formidable fouling conditions than we are here in California. 
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